We’ll kick this off by asking: who do you speak to and what do you speak about?
I speak about people’s inherent creativity and intuition—their inner sources of wisdom, brilliance, and guidance for decision-making that are often held back. I’ve developed a whole program to help people feel confident in their intuition and creativity.
I mostly speak to companies, real estate agents, tech groups, and sales groups. I also run intuition classes that are mostly filled with women—often middle-aged—which has been fun, inspiring, and healthy.
That’s awesome. What led you to seek out The Speaker Lab?
I worked in tech startups in marketing for a long time, and speaking was something I did on the side. When I left in 2019, I was paying my bills but didn’t have structure. I don’t have a business degree and I’m not naturally assertive on the business side.
The Speaker Lab gave me that training and structure. It helped me think about warm leads vs. cold leads, how to bring past contacts to something new, how to structure proposals so both sides feel good, and how to set goals that are attainable. It showed me there are actual steps I could follow, and I didn’t have to figure it all out alone.
Did you have any fears when starting?
Not so much fear of speaking—I’d already done that. It was more, “I hope this works for me. I hope I can improve in a meaningful way.”
After going through the SPEAK Framework, what were your stand out results?
I write my proposals more intelligently. One great tip was: if a group says they can’t afford you, still put down your full price and show them a discount, so they see your value. Then you can adjust for future work.
Proposals are stronger, and I’ve become braver with pricing—earning more while strengthening relationships, not harming them.
Also, the system of “regular touches” has been huge—actually keeping a list, writing dates, tracking what I said, and varying follow-ups. Sometimes you just let an area cool off for six months and focus elsewhere. The plan has given me confidence and results.
Can you tell us about a moment on stage that really stood out for you?
I keynoted for a well-known real estate agency in the Northwest. One woman in the audience realized during my talk on intuition that she needed to make a change—switching her real estate office. She’d been resisting it with doubts and “shoulds.”
After my talk, she made the move. Her commute became shorter, she found best friends at the new office, she adored her boss, and her whole life improved. She told me, “If I hadn’t heard you, I don’t know if I would have made that change.” That was incredible.
What’s your new normal day-to-day as a speaker?
I’m in my software more often, keeping track of contacts and follow-ups. I describe my services more clearly—saying, “I’ll help your team with decision-making,” or “I’ll help them collaborate under stress.”
I’m getting more invitations to annual or biannual in-person events, especially for remote teams. Speaker Lab helped me frame my offers around benefits first, which has been powerful.
Who would you recommend The Speaker Lab to?
Anyone who wants to make money speaking. Even complete beginners should consider it.
I already had experience, but I was still so impressed with the detailed training on how to present, organize a talk, and behave on stage. Just becoming a better public speaker is a valuable skill for anyone, and The Speaker Lab teaches that—plus the marketing, business, and networking side.
Anything else you’d like to share?
Yes—the community. It’s active, intelligent, ambitious in a positive way, and very supportive. You get out what you put in, but it’s such a positive group with staying power.